Nevermind the Music

Nevermind the Music

The podcast about the songs you love and why you love them! Join us each week as two friends, one a music professor and one a psychology professor, hang out and deep dive about one iconic song. Laugh and learn with us about songwriting, the brain, and pop culture.


Send us your thoughts at NeverMusicPod@gmail.com and check us out on social media @NeverMusicPod


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Nevermind the Music is published by the Lorehounds

‘Fast Car’ by Tracy Chapman and the Locus of Storytelling
Nevermind the MusicMay 05, 202601:15:4269.31 MB

‘Fast Car’ by Tracy Chapman and the Locus of Storytelling

Is 47.5 times through a guitar riff enough? This week, we grab a ticket to anywhere with Tracy Chapman’s thoughtful 1988 ballad “Fast Car.” Nichole relates this song to people’s sense of whether they are in control of their lives, and, Here in episode #89, Mark finally starts listening to lyrics, an...

Sidetrack - Mark Cries on Mic (and Nichole Laughs)
Nevermind the MusicApril 28, 202601:00:3855.52 MB

Sidetrack - Mark Cries on Mic (and Nichole Laughs)

Is that episode title just a joke? Mark definitely wishes it was. In this week’s Sidetrack, our hosts give their lists of songs that get the waterworks flowing. Join us for some really awesome music and some major over-sharing! See you next week for a regular, sob-free episode! Music heard in this e...

‘When You Were Young’ by The Killers and Personal Fables of Dissonance
Nevermind the MusicApril 21, 202601:12:3666.47 MB

‘When You Were Young’ by The Killers and Personal Fables of Dissonance

When is the right note actually a wrong note? This week, we’re burning down the highway skyline to The Killers’ 2006 anthem “When You Were Young.” Mark shares how this is one of those songs where are the melody seems to almost ignore the chord progression. Nichole connects those broken expectations ...

Sidetrack - Mark’s Son Has a Hot Take on Fleetwood Mac
Nevermind the MusicApril 14, 202600:43:1539.61 MB

Sidetrack - Mark’s Son Has a Hot Take on Fleetwood Mac

Who better to judge Boomer music than a member of Generation Alpha? In this Sidetrack, Mark’s son makes a surprising and controversial proclamation about the production of the universally-acclaimed 1977 Fleetwood Mac opus, Rumours . Mark takes us through the innovations of multi-track recording that...

‘Dreams’ by Fleetwood Mac and Grieving Phrase Structure
Nevermind the MusicApril 07, 202600:54:5750.32 MB

‘Dreams’ by Fleetwood Mac and Grieving Phrase Structure

What’s a good way to get through a breakup? Record a hit single! In this episode, we are entranced by Fleetwood Mac’s 1977 masterpiece “Dreams.” Nichole talks through the grief that accompanies the end of a relationship, which somehow with this band led to some terrific songs. Mark then dreams about...

Sidetrack - The Superpowers of a Family Band
Nevermind the MusicMarch 31, 202600:28:5326.45 MB

Sidetrack - The Superpowers of a Family Band

Would you rather make music with your grandma or your ex? In this week’s Sidetrack, Mark and Nichole create a family tree of iconic family bands and artists. From twins to parents and uncles, we talk through the superpowers these groups get through their family connections. Check out a full episode ...

‘Numb’ by Linkin Park and the Identity of a Scream
Nevermind the MusicMarch 24, 202601:30:0282.43 MB

‘Numb’ by Linkin Park and the Identity of a Scream

What happens when you have to replace an iconic voice? This week we rock out to Linkin Park’s 2003 hit “Numb.” Mark compares live performances of the band’s big hits across two very different lead vocalists and what changes the band had to make to keep their sound. Meanwhile, Nichole wonders whether...

Sidetrack - Season 2 Mailbag 2
Nevermind the MusicMarch 17, 202600:59:0254.05 MB

Sidetrack - Season 2 Mailbag 2

Is this an international podcast now? This week, we dig back into the e-mail inbox for more listener feedback! From the iconic radio stations of our youths, to whether headphones make us antisocial and plastic trumpets, we chime in on the burning questions of our audience.  Music heard in this episo...

‘Man! I Feel Like a Woman!’ by Shania Twain and Feminist Falling Fourths
Nevermind the MusicMarch 10, 202601:03:5958.59 MB

‘Man! I Feel Like a Woman!’ by Shania Twain and Feminist Falling Fourths

Who ordered all the man candy? In this episode, we dress up for Shania Twain’s 1997 country-rock smash “Man! I feel like a Woman!” After our hosts consider this song and its video’s relation to third-wave feminism in the 1990s, Mark leads us on a journey through the centuries following one type of c...

Sidetrack - Authenticity in the Age of A.I. (with Michael Serazio)
Nevermind the MusicMarch 03, 202601:06:0060.43 MB

Sidetrack - Authenticity in the Age of A.I. (with Michael Serazio)

Is it possible for a robot to sell out? This week, we welcome author and communication professor Michael Serazio to talk about authenticity in pop music, especially with the arrival of A.I.-created music. Can a machine be a tortured artist… or at least fake it better than a human? Is this the end of...